Apologetics is the rather ambitious attempt to defend the claim that the bible is the inerrant word of an infallible, omnipotent god. By extension such a god should be able to state exactly what it wants to say and do so free of any and all ambiguity. Its word should be unencumbered by cultural idiosyncrasies and remain unmolested by divergences in language, calligraphy, obscure and dead lexicons, future dialects, exotic morphemes, or even illiteracy and deafness. Its word should contain no contradiction, no absurdity, no oversight or declarations that are in conflict with observed facts. Its word should penetrate all tribal, domestic and international legal code and remain morally true in a timeless continuum. Such an entity should be instantly recognisable to all sentient creatures regardless of locale or epoch, and its actions should exhibit no fault or favour, no bias, prejudice, second-thought or indeed, if omnipotent, no mind-set at all.
Now here comes that awkward moment for the bible-wielding fundamentalist. If this claim were in way true there wouldn’t be apologists practicing apologetics. It’s as simple as that.
God must’ve intended the bible for a race of cryptographers on another planet.
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Or else he simply forgot to add the magic goggles and talking stones at the bottom of a top hat. Forgetful chap.
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I think that it is strange
And I think that it is odd
That you think it’s strange
That I defend the word of god
The bible is the inerrant word
Of an omnipotent being
It states it without ambiguity
And that’s what you’re not seeing
It contains not one absurdity
No conflict or oversight
No bias or prejudice
Indeed it’s all just right
There is no awkward moment
In the apologetics that I claim
And my simple mind will keep doing it
If to you it’s all the same
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Meme, how poetic!
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If you will look very closely, you will see that all Meme did was to take John’s exact words and just rearrange them some. Anybody could have made something poetic doing that. …..even me. 🙂
Well, John probably can’t. lol
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🙂
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Ahaha! Superb!
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no brother, the bible is inerrant! You are reading it wrongly. Forget the apologists for they know not what they are doing 😀
You say a lot in few words, I think am going to have to come for lessons on brevity!
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I’d call it laziness, but hell i’ll take brevity! 🙂
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Indeed, that has always puzzled me about the Bible. If it was even close to being the word of god, let’s say the transcommunicated via an angel, via a fallible human being, it would still be heads and shoulders above anything written in its day, and perhaps our own. The fact that it doesn’t say nothing that wasn’t already said in that day and age by philosophers and lawgivers is a strike through its heart.
Carl Sagan said it best. If God was really God, he’d know the skepticism that was coming given scientific advances the human mind was keenly capable of coming in the future, and he would have put facts in there, even if they didn’t understand it. Pi to 16 digits, the law of convservation of energy, planets went around the sun. It didn’t matter if those goat-herders didnt understand it, God said it, so keep reproducing it and one day it will make sense. Who is a mortal to omit something that God said to keep propagating. That a man, Carl Sagan, can outwit God is all the proof you need that God, as written down in religion, existed not.
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Exactly, precisely, spot on! The recipe for the first earthly cheese cake would be something, but no, this god fella couldn’t even do that! I could be a believer if cheese cake was added into the mix 😉
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Cheesecake 😦 I want! You just made me hungry, and arabs aren’t fun when their hungry. Shame on you Mr. Zande, or as Mr. Hitchens would say, “for shame, for shame!!!!”
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A hungry Arab… wasn’t that how the 7th Crusade started? 🙂
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LOL
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God’s wrath God’s wrath God’s wrath..FUCK YOU
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Oh shit, have i been smited, again? 🙂
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Pardon my language. I’m clueless. For that brief moment I was someone else and my fingers ran berserk over the keys. Think it was God.
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You’d make a kickass God, Arjun! A stoic, heavy drinking poet moving on whim. Create, or not to create? 🙂
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Really?? Have none of you visited ‘spam liker’ Humanity777’s blog? It’s all in the numbers, you idiots!!
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Asgard, yes! I have seen that site. It’s a digital headache. One might even say, unnatural 😉
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But hundreds of people can’t be wrong! The page gets so many drippy ‘Lord’s work’ comments. Where are all these nutters hiding?
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Now now, Violet… we can’t call them nutters behind their backs. You’re just not playing fair at all today. Has this got something to do with Papa Francis, pots n’ pans, and caribou Cristina? 😉
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(Sssh, I’m calling them ‘nutters’ to lure them in …)
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You’re watching cartoons in the background, aren’t you? Elmer Fudd, perhaps?
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You’re sharp of wit today! Must be that Friday feeling, or an extra strong tropical fruit cocktail (cos I’m guessing that’s what your life is like.)
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It’s nothing but Carmen Miranda costumes and Bossa Nova round here!
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Oooh, I forgot about that guy. He’s a good target for the new concept.
Violet, you really are sensitive to the “spam liking” thing 🙂
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I thought of adding a little quip about you too, but I think we’ve moved past that 🙂
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😦 I hope so 🙂
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1-0 to the guy with the eye! Nice coat-hanger king Hit, Chris!
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ok, I’ve been up since 4:30 with the puppy, what the hell is a coat-hanger king hit …
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It’s the one you never saw coming
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Don’t provoke violetwisp. We just made up. I’m trying to decide if humanity77 would actually make a good contestant, or if he’s just too nutzo.
http://humanity777.wordpress.com/
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He’s completely Fruitloops, Chris….don’t waste you time
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LOL
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Yeah, he’s too out there. I wouldn’t mind seeing video of him getting ready in the morning, brushing his hair, teeth, shaving … that would be interesting.
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Hey Ark, are you going to play in Chris’s new cage fighting arena? You, sir, would be excellent!
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Sunofmysoul made a great suggestion for audience comments. Check it out.
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Nah, dude, there’s a menu in the sidebar to go to comments pages for specific posts
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Paul said in 1 Corinthians 14:33, “For God is not the author of confusion…”.
See, it is not confusing. The bible says so.
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Check Mate, Heathens!
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But John, you have to be wrong, because the Bible is right. See logic isn’t so hard. This reminds me of when I was a teacher and my colleagues would blame the students for not learning when it was our job to teach them. If you don’t see the inerrancy of the Bible, you are in error. If you don’t understand, it’s because no one can understand the mind of their god. But they are sure, mind you, that “he” has a plan for you; let’s see it’s right here, under “s,” uh I can’t find superstitiousnakedape in the Bible but I am sure it is there. If you don’t find it, you made a mistake.
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The escape clauses Christocons come up with to excuse these errors are impressive, and that’s putting it mildly. Even this slice of logical pie will be dismissed as something fallacious despite only having pointed out the clear contradiction in the very existence of apologetics.
1+1 = 6 if you’re retarded enough.
Were you the kind of Chem teacher who blew things up? I bet you were 😉
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Come, Igor, to the laboratory! We have powders to grind. Heh, heh . . . .
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I thought as much
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Unassailable logic, again.
But logic only applies in a reality-based world. But that’s OK. Reality exists whether you “believe” in it or not, just as surely as “god” does not.
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Reality has sharp edges, but if it didn’t hurt from time to time how else would you know you were alive?
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By being engulfed in an endless ocean of pure hedonistic pleasure? 🙂
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You were born in the wrong era, Richard. Phoenicia, circa 500 BCE is where you belong. Damn, just imagine how different things might be today if that were the case!
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Well shit! I’ll just fire up the Temporal Transporter and head on back there!
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But I thought the Flux Capacitor was smashed beyond repair when you rescued Lorraine from Biff?
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You’ve got me confused with someone else dude. My ride uses a zed point power module. I lifted it from one of the ancient’s jump gates whilst eluding a Wraith hive ship.
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Ahhh, that was you, huh? 🙂
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Ahhhmmm, why do you ask? You’re working for those damn Wraith aren’t you!? }:(
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Ooh, I love that. “Literalism” is what drove me running and screaming from the insanity. The Bible is just too full of everything evil to be God’s WORD.
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Well, to be fair, the talking donkeys and unicorns are real, the rest is just bunk.
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OMGZ!!!!!!!!!!!111one. The title of this post is like the bee’s knees and the cat’s pajamas all rolled up into one stinging pile of fur!
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You should know, Guru
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Oh, you know you are really my Guru.
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“Such an entity should be instantly recognizable to all sentient creatures regardless of locale or epoch, and its actions should exhibit no fault or favour, no bias, prejudice, second-thought or indeed, if omnipotent, no mind-set at all.”
You have got to be kidding, right? This is ‘God’ we are talking about here and to my knowledge only two things have ever met such stringent criteria: Mohammed Ali in his prime and a Coca Cola bottle.
So if you are pushing for a god, then I’ll plump for the latter….if it’s all the same with you, that is?
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Those early Coke bottles were nice 😉
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“If this claim were in way true there wouldn’t be apologists practicing apologetics.”
Well, yeah, but…
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🙂
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