I was taught that God was punishing the Jews and he didn’t let them reach the promised land for 40 years because they kept on whining about how thirsty they were, etc.
John, you missed some part of the desert besides there journey involved sacrifices, issuing of laws and delivery of manna. They definitely had to take a longer time.
Again the sons of Israel were led by a non-existent god and an over zealous priest, I don’t think you would get any better. I agree with those who say the world would be worse of if we were still led by priests!
If he can’t answer it, it’s unfalsifiable, which means it’s not a real belief. You need to get some lessons on ‘real questions’. I’ll see if I can send my friend over …
The One above sees all—exemplified by any amateur chess game where spectators do their ‘best’ not to twitch, squeak, snort and/or sigh just when you’re reaching for a piece … so Steph has to be right: deliberate~!
As a Greek, I have to say I find the drawing most inspiring. These sandals were made for walking! And what was wrong with good old Zeus leading the way anyway?
Well as they say, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single “oy!”.
I do believe Macedonian troops were possibly easier to direct and steer. You know of course what ‘s the collective noun for – oh heck I’d better stop now!
Interesting if you read the Declaration of Arbroath—what appears to be a throwaway grovel somewhere near the front (from memory).
As for the routes—IF it actually happened: is it not possible that the Beloved Leader was trying to rid his flock of dross? Two generations would be quite adequate with the right ‘tutors’, to decontaminate and bend a few minds. A wee bit of mental ‘ethnic cleansing’ in fact (ethic-cleansing?) (ye gods).
Had to look that one up. Cool, what’s it got to do with this, though?
The exodus never happened. Even rabbis are stating it in public forums now, which is a nice change considering its been known for over 30 years. Knock down Judaism and the foundations of Christianity and Islam will look mighty shaky!
From memory I think they were claiming the Scots to be a bunch of wandering Jews? Could only some of them reached the Promised Land, and the real boofheads kept heading north … ?
As for shaking the foundations, you can pull the rug right out from under—rationally—but it ain’t gonna rock ’em at all. The devout aren’t interested in facts or logic.
I’m about to post, but it won’t achieve anything beyond making ME feel better …
True that, but it only applies to those already under the spell. Ruin the background story and selling the bullshit to future generations becomes an immensely difficult proposition. This isn’t going to be realised in this generation. Crazy takes a while to exorcise….
re “The exodus never happened. Even rabbis are stating it in public forums now, which is a nice change considering its been known for over 30 years. Knock down Judaism and the foundations of Christianity and Islam will look mighty shaky!”
Gee, too bad you weren’t there to tell Hitler that! He sure coulda save a lot of gas, buildings, food and blankets, not to mention all those bullets!
I understand the point but it’s diluted by the fact that A. the Great came much later and had better developed technology and transport. Plus he probly used some of the highways, roads, trails, and maps said Jews put in place before he got there. And had them to rob for food, shelter, supplies, slaves and sex. So it’s a good thing for him they didn’t give up and were there when he needed help killing the world.
Interesting that you brought this up…. there isn’t a single reference of Alexander fighting Jews. He was most definitely fighting someone, you need only read the story of Tyre, but it sure wasn’t the Jews. Where were they? They claim a connection with the land, and yet it wasn’t them defending it against the Macedonians….
Sure, but have you ever tried crapping al natural 14,600 times? You’d think after maybe 30 you might be pressing the navigator for a little homely comfort….
Hey, John, I gave you an award bouquet on my blog because I admire your brains – you don’t have to follow the rules listed, unless you really want to. Cheers!
More like 40 minutes these days, Israel isn’t very big. No of course I underestimate, possibly three hours tops if you don’t stop to roast chicken and talk shop every seven minutes.
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Once you’ve seen one bit of desert…
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… Oh look, that patch of dirty sand is kinda’ different! 🙂
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He just though they need the exercise.
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Lounge time, huh? Desert sky’s are pretty impressive.
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Now compare travel budget. Who’s clever now?
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D’oh! Ahhhh, wait up… who got the more travel miles bonus points, huh? Check and Mate!
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True, very true. And I’m sure they expired before they arrived.
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Thank you for a rather hearty laugh.
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You’re very much welcome!
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I was taught that God was punishing the Jews and he didn’t let them reach the promised land for 40 years because they kept on whining about how thirsty they were, etc.
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Shhhh, Coca! You’ll blow away my smoke and mirrors 🙂
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John, you missed some part of the desert besides there journey involved sacrifices, issuing of laws and delivery of manna. They definitely had to take a longer time.
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Silly me… and all Alexander did was rout the world largest empire and establish 19 new cities, all called Alexandria.
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Again the sons of Israel were led by a non-existent god and an over zealous priest, I don’t think you would get any better. I agree with those who say the world would be worse of if we were still led by priests!
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If it were we’d still be making dimples in clay tablets…
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And remember…no sat nav or ordinance survey maps!
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Well, to be fair, Alexander did have a very big nose… 😉
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Explains it all ! Ol’ big nose had it sussed!
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It’s a little known fact, but Arrian was originally going to title The Anabasis, “The Nose Knows!”
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The real question here is: what would it take for you to believe the Jews took this route? Otherwise your drawing means nothing. 🙂
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That’s not the real question, actually. That question is boring.
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Not to PeW it isn’t 😦
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If he can’t answer it, it’s unfalsifiable, which means it’s not a real belief. You need to get some lessons on ‘real questions’. I’ll see if I can send my friend over …
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Ok, let your friend fight your battle for you. Perhaps they will do a better job.
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Oh sweet unicorns…. PeW has possessed you!
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Well, you know, he seems to have given up commenting on your posts (scared?) so I thought I’d send you some of his special brand of appreciation.
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Appreciated, thanks!
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Did you factor in the slowdown by older Jews crying “oy vey” continuously?
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That made me snort!
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I thought Yahweh was deliberately misleading the hapless Jews, no? “Take a left here! Yes, I mean it; I am not lost!”
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Are we there yet!!?
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The One above sees all—exemplified by any amateur chess game where spectators do their ‘best’ not to twitch, squeak, snort and/or sigh just when you’re reaching for a piece … so Steph has to be right: deliberate~!
Why?
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As a Greek, I have to say I find the drawing most inspiring. These sandals were made for walking! And what was wrong with good old Zeus leading the way anyway?
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I’m a fan of Zeus. Not as good as Veles, but a hell of lot more efficient than this bi-polar Middle Eastern number.
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Well as they say, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single “oy!”.
I do believe Macedonian troops were possibly easier to direct and steer. You know of course what ‘s the collective noun for – oh heck I’d better stop now!
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🙂
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Interesting if you read the Declaration of Arbroath—what appears to be a throwaway grovel somewhere near the front (from memory).
As for the routes—IF it actually happened: is it not possible that the Beloved Leader was trying to rid his flock of dross? Two generations would be quite adequate with the right ‘tutors’, to decontaminate and bend a few minds. A wee bit of mental ‘ethnic cleansing’ in fact (ethic-cleansing?) (ye gods).
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Had to look that one up. Cool, what’s it got to do with this, though?
The exodus never happened. Even rabbis are stating it in public forums now, which is a nice change considering its been known for over 30 years. Knock down Judaism and the foundations of Christianity and Islam will look mighty shaky!
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From memory I think they were claiming the Scots to be a bunch of wandering Jews? Could only some of them reached the Promised Land, and the real boofheads kept heading north … ?
As for shaking the foundations, you can pull the rug right out from under—rationally—but it ain’t gonna rock ’em at all. The devout aren’t interested in facts or logic.
I’m about to post, but it won’t achieve anything beyond making ME feel better …
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True that, but it only applies to those already under the spell. Ruin the background story and selling the bullshit to future generations becomes an immensely difficult proposition. This isn’t going to be realised in this generation. Crazy takes a while to exorcise….
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re “The exodus never happened. Even rabbis are stating it in public forums now, which is a nice change considering its been known for over 30 years. Knock down Judaism and the foundations of Christianity and Islam will look mighty shaky!”
Gee, too bad you weren’t there to tell Hitler that! He sure coulda save a lot of gas, buildings, food and blankets, not to mention all those bullets!
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What’s that supposed to mean?
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1759245/pg1
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/15596/l-a-rabbi-creates-furor-by-questioning-exodus-story/%20.
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Hitler failed to shake the foundations of religion. Was answering sarcasm with sarcasm.
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Ahhhh, bit slow… must remember not to comment before coffee has turned on brain.
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Amen to that Brother!
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🙂
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Yes, “ethic” cleansing. Get rid of the generation that lived and witnessed the real story, then make up another one.
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Well, to me the image clearly shows Alexander the Great was lost. What was all that zig-zag for?
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Chasing Darius! 🙂
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I understand the point but it’s diluted by the fact that A. the Great came much later and had better developed technology and transport. Plus he probly used some of the highways, roads, trails, and maps said Jews put in place before he got there. And had them to rob for food, shelter, supplies, slaves and sex. So it’s a good thing for him they didn’t give up and were there when he needed help killing the world.
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Interesting that you brought this up…. there isn’t a single reference of Alexander fighting Jews. He was most definitely fighting someone, you need only read the story of Tyre, but it sure wasn’t the Jews. Where were they? They claim a connection with the land, and yet it wasn’t them defending it against the Macedonians….
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Yahweh…thisweh, thatweh…..noweh.
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Ha, brilliant! I hadn’t thought of that! Oh, perhaps i shouldn’t admit to that….
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It’s your inspiration that is the driving force behind my creativity John
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I somehow doubt that, Mary…. you’re always “On” 😉
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That’s very funny Miss Mary Canada, I’m chortling heartily as I type!
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🙂
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As a jogger (non-jogger) I relate to the Jews.
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Sure, but have you ever tried crapping al natural 14,600 times? You’d think after maybe 30 you might be pressing the navigator for a little homely comfort….
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I can’t be driven around the block without asking “when are we gonna be there?” I would’ve followed sand crab before Moses.
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Hey, John, I gave you an award bouquet on my blog because I admire your brains – you don’t have to follow the rules listed, unless you really want to. Cheers!
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Wow, thanks, Tara! Yes, I’m pretty bad at following these rules, but its the thought that counts. You’re a champion!
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Ya just can’t trust them pillars of fire for proper directions.
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It was just 250 kilometers for crying out loud! When Yahweh guides you, you don’t get anywhere fast!
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Hey, Alex, have you seen my pottery?
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Fercockt! We’ve been through this a bazillion times before. Terracotta foot stools AREN’T pottery, oy-yoy-yoy!
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Shit. So this isn’t the Santa Fe Book Festival? I told you we shoulda asked that man back at the Phillips station for a map, Harold.
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Book Festival!?! What the hell are you talking about, book festival? What happened to the Paddington Bear Honey Fest….
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No, no, that’s in Connecticut
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Not Dunedin? Oh sweet Zeus…
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Get in the back seat. I’m driving.
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But you’re drunk! Oh, what the hell, why not….
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Finally! Kids, move your footstools so your father can get in the back. And stop playing with those damned bibles!
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🙂
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He needed to recalibrate his GPS.
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His God-Possibly-Spoke’ometer….
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exactly
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Sounds to me like they weren’t in any particular hurry to get anywhere.
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More like 40 minutes these days, Israel isn’t very big. No of course I underestimate, possibly three hours tops if you don’t stop to roast chicken and talk shop every seven minutes.
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That’s because they weren’t going anywhere… they never left Canaan 🙂
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Stoopid
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