It is truly scarey. Watching the religious elements of our society viciously chew at the very roots of our civilization is horrifying.
They don’t seem to get that “the good old days” really took the piss on just about every level for those who lived during them and it doesn’t get easier the farther back you go.
That is usually a sign that women need to do more of what ‘they’ are afraid of. If you’re not making someone (or half the planet who call themselves religious) angry, then you’re not doing it right. Even for purely selfish reasons, ignoring the immorality of suppressing the fairer race, life gets better for everyone by educating women and giving them the freedom they deserve, just as much for men as for women. It is, quite literally, stupidity that does not see this.
In the future, when we are technologically augmented, perfectly rational, and have the entirety of human knowledge inside of our brains on-demand 24/7, history won’t have nice things to say about religion.
You’ve got that right. It’ll be afforded the same baffled giggles we gave when as kids we learnt people used to believe the earth was flat. Oh Star Trek, where are you???
It’s coming. You read about the 100 Year Starship project? The warp drive that NASA is looking into? The fusion drive that may take us to Mars? The problem with sci-fi of the late 20th century was it arbitrarily put dates, ramping up our expectations too soon. The real inventions are coming along. Elon Musk, CEO of SpaceX, will be unveiling an alien-looking spaceship later this year. The future is almost here, sit tight Mr. Zande đŸ™‚
But women are a threat to the sacrifice of abstinence—you evil beings seduce the faithful from the True Path and divert attention from the worship of the One True Gods (all three of Him, for some). Nope, women should be kept in special breeding barns and given only to the truly worthy to propagate the species.
Now for God’s sake (a) wash that blackboard and (b) pass that microscope over to a boy, and (c) shut your damned keyboard lest Satan use you to even greater effect—your pathetic ignorant bleating question has already done enough damage.
I am glad to have disturbed your peace with an irresistbly seductive question. I wonder what other erotic questions like that one I can dream up to divert the faithful. I’ll be working on it. đŸ™‚
Knowledge can dissipate superstitions like a lantern does darkness.
A priest/rabbi/mullah (absolutely expert in how many angels can dance on the head of a pin) cannot combat genuine Knowledge, he is compelled to defensively reassert his power before he loses it to the clear level gaze of the educated.
So in the Abrahamic religions women are unclean and to be kept in their place (uneducated drudges serving men).
The liberating effect of knowledge (“You’re a footless sham, Priest!”) and a level gaze based in the real world rather than a world of spooks and demons is a threat that cannot be allowed to grow unchecked.
Another reason why priests ferret out and destroy ‘witchery’ — the local franchise cannot tolerate any competition for the limited bucks of the faithful.
One would think knowledge dissipates superstitions, but I look and the step backwards muslim women have taken in the last fifty/sixty years (France, Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Iran, Turkey…) and I weep. We are not talking about ignorant women here, but silent women by choice.
Silence is brilliant stuff when it means survival … dead heroes are useless, live diplomats can create change.
Someone once said “If I survive, I win”. The Chinese point out that under the same heavy fall of snow the mighty oak can collapse whilst the wimpy willow just bends, and shrugs off the load.
Liberation arises first and foremost via education and circumspect manoeuvering. For women in those places I can offer no help at all, beyond what I’m trying to do on these blogs—and reasoning with the deluded is as much use as reasoning with a mad dog, it can’t be done.
The dark magical ability of ‘multitasking’. For instance this women is mentally filing her tax rebate whilst imagining a new interior design for the dining room: http://mywifemygoddess.tumblr.com/post/135305249200
I had to look that up in the Urban Dictionary, I’m so out of touch. This is a great post but I’m always disappointed when physicsandwhiskey doesn’t start up on some irrelevant angle. I mean, what’s the point in lurking if there’s no nonsense to police?!
Hehehe…. You are a mischievousness one, Violet. If you provoke Whisky correctly he’ll perform đŸ˜‰ I’m however just enjoying the fact that i’m on a roll… three posts in a row and he hasn’t criticised me! Yay!
am scared myself đŸ˜€
and could you do a meme which we can use a response to every christian post. I think one or two would be sufficient. this is a suggestion from Ark
Such an odd perspective: the idea of physical property. It’s fear, plain and simple. These men are terrified of women. They’re so caught up in their own inadequacies and perversions that they want to cage the thing they think has the most power to hurt them. It’s about the most pathetic thing out there
I’ve said it before, but you’re a lucky bastard to have this connection… and to have touched the soil. A dream of mine to do Iraq and Iran… a dream fucked up by George Mission Accomplished Bush.
Damn, I just looked it up… sacred to both Shi’a and Sunni’s, heart of Shia political power. I don’t even want to ask what happened there during the insurgency.
You read my atheist in a foxhole series? I’ve had two sticky situations in Iraq. I’m on my tablet now so I can’t paste the links for you, but google random rationality and atheist in a foxhole and it should show up.
I like your comment. this woman is pretty nuts, though. Islamic blinkers are worse than the Christian kind. “Jihad, Jihad, Jihad…. Oh, but we don’t mean THAT Jihad!”
I always maintain that any deity that requires mere mortals to speak for it is not worth the time of day.
If I was a god I sure as hell wouldn’t want some puny squishy life forms speaking n my behalf.
They are all mostly the same, but Muslims are just a bit more left field for my liking.
You’re being far, far, far too kind. The problem for Muslims though is the great majority of them are uneducated ignoramuses and really can’t help but be hoodwinked by the bullshit. Christianity attracts and maintains the stupid, but Islam seems to be that special place where the atomically dumb fall through to. It’s why you can’t have a conversation/debate with a Muslim without them quoting the Qur’an. They literally can’t think for themselves.
The article looks like it would be really great, but where is it? All I see are the two pictures and the blurbs “What terrifies fundamentalists the most?” But when I click them on, all I see is a PDF version of the photographs. I want to read this, so please let me know what I have to do to read the article.
Alright, it may just be that it is late, but I have to admit it took me a while to get it. I know, I know, once I got it I wondered why I did not see it before, but I guess one does not see it until one sees it, right? Though part of me is still wondering if I really got it and now I am just quarrelling within my mind. Maybe I should get some rest. Great post, though, mind if I repost? đŸ™‚
Applauding you for this, as a woman who sees women in Western society waste their education and strip off instead of thinking. The waste of resources is incredible, just like in social systems where women are oppressed as a rule. I met a man in the United States who said that due to religious beliefs, his wife could not exercise, as she would have to dress immodestly. He works out every day and is in great shape. However, her lack of physical activity is affecting her well being and their marriage. This might be a completely different thesis from what you presented in your post but to me it feels the same. x
Cheers Sabiscuit, and I have heard of evangelical churches cancelling exercise classes because the women wore yoga pants. THE HORROR! Excluding some of the eastern traditions, all religions, and especially the Abrahamic religions, blame something for the ills of this world, and women tend to take the brunt of that blame. It’s patently ridiculous, and baffling how these belief systems have survived into the 21st Century.
These same people microwave their pizza, drive cars and depend on Twitter to spread their retrogressive views. They’re silly and I don’t listen to them. I love your blog, though. You’re incredibly skilled at handling screaming dissent. It’s the worded version of an eye roll. x
It is, isn’t it? Been busy herding busy-things, and slapping together the 2nd TOOAIN book. Once that’s buttoned up I’ll flood you with nourishing goodness.
thesuperstitiousnakedape.wordpress.com 
This doesn’t become any less scary.
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Agreed đŸ˜¦
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It is truly scarey. Watching the religious elements of our society viciously chew at the very roots of our civilization is horrifying.
They don’t seem to get that “the good old days” really took the piss on just about every level for those who lived during them and it doesn’t get easier the farther back you go.
Great post John. :>
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Hear, hear! Things are not great at the moment, but they have been a lot worse.
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Come on, my friend! Polio and TB, raw sewage and child labor were Sunday picnics! đŸ™‚
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What is it about us women that is so scary? Why?
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My question exactly! For some rather peculiar reason you literally terrify religious men.
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That is usually a sign that women need to do more of what ‘they’ are afraid of. If you’re not making someone (or half the planet who call themselves religious) angry, then you’re not doing it right. Even for purely selfish reasons, ignoring the immorality of suppressing the fairer race, life gets better for everyone by educating women and giving them the freedom they deserve, just as much for men as for women. It is, quite literally, stupidity that does not see this.
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Nicely put.
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In the future, when we are technologically augmented, perfectly rational, and have the entirety of human knowledge inside of our brains on-demand 24/7, history won’t have nice things to say about religion.
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You’ve got that right. It’ll be afforded the same baffled giggles we gave when as kids we learnt people used to believe the earth was flat. Oh Star Trek, where are you???
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It’s coming. You read about the 100 Year Starship project? The warp drive that NASA is looking into? The fusion drive that may take us to Mars? The problem with sci-fi of the late 20th century was it arbitrarily put dates, ramping up our expectations too soon. The real inventions are coming along. Elon Musk, CEO of SpaceX, will be unveiling an alien-looking spaceship later this year. The future is almost here, sit tight Mr. Zande đŸ™‚
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I’ll believe it when i don’t see Ministry of Defense budgets topping $1 trillion with NASA having to beg for $17 billion
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You obviously don’t know The Spouse.
But women are a threat to the sacrifice of abstinence—you evil beings seduce the faithful from the True Path and divert attention from the worship of the One True Gods (all three of Him, for some). Nope, women should be kept in special breeding barns and given only to the truly worthy to propagate the species.
Now for God’s sake (a) wash that blackboard and (b) pass that microscope over to a boy, and (c) shut your damned keyboard lest Satan use you to even greater effect—your pathetic ignorant bleating question has already done enough damage.
I hope ….
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That was for Emmy, above. Stupid ‘reply’ button …
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I am glad to have disturbed your peace with an irresistbly seductive question. I wonder what other erotic questions like that one I can dream up to divert the faithful. I’ll be working on it. đŸ™‚
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Knowledge is power.
Knowledge can dissipate superstitions like a lantern does darkness.
A priest/rabbi/mullah (absolutely expert in how many angels can dance on the head of a pin) cannot combat genuine Knowledge, he is compelled to defensively reassert his power before he loses it to the clear level gaze of the educated.
So in the Abrahamic religions women are unclean and to be kept in their place (uneducated drudges serving men).
The liberating effect of knowledge (“You’re a footless sham, Priest!”) and a level gaze based in the real world rather than a world of spooks and demons is a threat that cannot be allowed to grow unchecked.
Another reason why priests ferret out and destroy ‘witchery’ — the local franchise cannot tolerate any competition for the limited bucks of the faithful.
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One would think knowledge dissipates superstitions, but I look and the step backwards muslim women have taken in the last fifty/sixty years (France, Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Iran, Turkey…) and I weep. We are not talking about ignorant women here, but silent women by choice.
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Silence is brilliant stuff when it means survival … dead heroes are useless, live diplomats can create change.
Someone once said “If I survive, I win”. The Chinese point out that under the same heavy fall of snow the mighty oak can collapse whilst the wimpy willow just bends, and shrugs off the load.
Liberation arises first and foremost via education and circumspect manoeuvering. For women in those places I can offer no help at all, beyond what I’m trying to do on these blogs—and reasoning with the deluded is as much use as reasoning with a mad dog, it can’t be done.
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The dark magical ability of ‘multitasking’. For instance this women is mentally filing her tax rebate whilst imagining a new interior design for the dining room: http://mywifemygoddess.tumblr.com/post/135305249200
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That really says it all. Thanks for posting this!
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Cheers, Lively! Not as detailed or brilliantly thought provoking as your essays, but a simple message for the simpleminded theists.
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I. LOVE. THIS. POST!!
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I. LOVE. THAT. YOU. LOVE!
(Oh god, here we go again đŸ˜‰ )
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Ermagerd SCIENCE
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Pesky scientists… always trying to prove shit! đŸ™‚
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I had to look that up in the Urban Dictionary, I’m so out of touch. This is a great post but I’m always disappointed when physicsandwhiskey doesn’t start up on some irrelevant angle. I mean, what’s the point in lurking if there’s no nonsense to police?!
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Hehehe…. You are a mischievousness one, Violet. If you provoke Whisky correctly he’ll perform đŸ˜‰ I’m however just enjoying the fact that i’m on a roll… three posts in a row and he hasn’t criticised me! Yay!
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He’s afraid of Ark. And he knows the Ark will protect you from him. đŸ™‚
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Having a 3,500 year old demigod on your side is great!
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Hey now, there’s not ALWAYS something to nitpick.
I mostly just point out strawmen. Because those seem pretty common.
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I love you, whisky, you know that. Anyone who’s done a AIG flip-flop is a champion in my books đŸ™‚
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“We are the champions my friends….”
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I’m serious. That’s one hell of a mental shift. Impressed, I am.
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No pun intended. =P
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You bad! … as in good!
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This isn’t my Islam chum, though. Still thinking about that one…
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am scared myself đŸ˜€
and could you do a meme which we can use a response to every christian post. I think one or two would be sufficient. this is a suggestion from Ark
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Sure! How about…. I CALL BULLSHIT! đŸ˜‰
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Can it have a graphic to go with it?
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I’ve always had a special spot in my heart for this kid:
http://reactimg.com/?id=480
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I like it. That is just awesome
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He’s a good lad đŸ™‚
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S0 fucking ridiculously true. Sigh….
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You girls are sooooo fucking nasty!
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We are the problem!
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That’s what you get when you make something out of spare parts, right đŸ˜‰
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Haha, precisely. And we keep wanting to take MORE!
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Even more harrowing are those women who study such things as quantum mechanics and stem cell research. đŸ™‚
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The work of Beelzebub, Larry
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Heaven forbid! Next we’ll be piloting jets and walking on the moon. Unthinkable!
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Seriously, heathen… the nerve of you lot! đŸ˜‰
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Dontcha know a man has a right to do with his property as he sees fit? Better be careful…he’s got the state behind him too.
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Such an odd perspective: the idea of physical property. It’s fear, plain and simple. These men are terrified of women. They’re so caught up in their own inadequacies and perversions that they want to cage the thing they think has the most power to hurt them. It’s about the most pathetic thing out there
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Terrified of women? Oh, reeeelly?
“The hand that rocks the cradle rules the wor—” … oh. I see …
A pity Lysistrata is deceased. We could do with a few more like her.
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Brilliant. I think this is one of your most insightful memes. Sent a shiver down my spine.
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Not much thought to it… Just a snapshot of religious Christian/Mulsim reality, unfortunately.
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Boy, could I tell you some stories about my extended family living in one of the most religious cities in the world.
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Baghdad? Are they still religious after all that crap hurled on top of them?
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Najaf. Baghdad is Beunos Aires in comparison.
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I’ve said it before, but you’re a lucky bastard to have this connection… and to have touched the soil. A dream of mine to do Iraq and Iran… a dream fucked up by George Mission Accomplished Bush.
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Damn, I just looked it up… sacred to both Shi’a and Sunni’s, heart of Shia political power. I don’t even want to ask what happened there during the insurgency.
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You read my atheist in a foxhole series? I’ve had two sticky situations in Iraq. I’m on my tablet now so I can’t paste the links for you, but google random rationality and atheist in a foxhole and it should show up.
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Found it, but i’ll have to read it a little later to give it my full attention
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I read this yesterday, John, and wanted to post a link for you but struggled to find it, as it reminded me of this lady blogger.
http://islamwich.com/2013/03/28/truth-about-jihad/comment-page-1/#comment-168
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I like your comment. this woman is pretty nuts, though. Islamic blinkers are worse than the Christian kind. “Jihad, Jihad, Jihad…. Oh, but we don’t mean THAT Jihad!”
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I always maintain that any deity that requires mere mortals to speak for it is not worth the time of day.
If I was a god I sure as hell wouldn’t want some puny squishy life forms speaking n my behalf.
They are all mostly the same, but Muslims are just a bit more left field for my liking.
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You’re being far, far, far too kind. The problem for Muslims though is the great majority of them are uneducated ignoramuses and really can’t help but be hoodwinked by the bullshit. Christianity attracts and maintains the stupid, but Islam seems to be that special place where the atomically dumb fall through to. It’s why you can’t have a conversation/debate with a Muslim without them quoting the Qur’an. They literally can’t think for themselves.
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Here, check out Mikes blog post. It’s his record of a recent “chat” with a Muslim. Leave a comment because he really wants some help on this one.
http://beliefdelusion.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/discussion-between-an-atheist-and-his-muslim-cousin/
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All religion is terrifying to me đŸ™‚
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Amen to that, Hans
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Hallelujah, Brother~!
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Reblogged this on liveuntil.
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Excellent.
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Cheers Teeny!
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Reblogged this on ELANA – The Voice of the Future and commented:
LOVE IT!
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Sad but true… Your posts are always clever ones, dear John…
Sigh…Thanks for sharing.
Best wishes, Aquileana đŸ˜›
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Your posts make mine look like kindergarten finger paintings, my friend đŸ™‚
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With your philosophical leve?l… Come on… I sometimes find hard to understand you (in depth)
Hugs, Aquileana đŸ™‚
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The article looks like it would be really great, but where is it? All I see are the two pictures and the blurbs “What terrifies fundamentalists the most?” But when I click them on, all I see is a PDF version of the photographs. I want to read this, so please let me know what I have to do to read the article.
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Oops…I just realized there is no article. The photographs are the point. And yes, I agree.
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đŸ™‚ Just a meme
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Alright, it may just be that it is late, but I have to admit it took me a while to get it. I know, I know, once I got it I wondered why I did not see it before, but I guess one does not see it until one sees it, right? Though part of me is still wondering if I really got it and now I am just quarrelling within my mind. Maybe I should get some rest. Great post, though, mind if I repost? đŸ™‚
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Of course not, help yourself.
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Applauding you for this, as a woman who sees women in Western society waste their education and strip off instead of thinking. The waste of resources is incredible, just like in social systems where women are oppressed as a rule. I met a man in the United States who said that due to religious beliefs, his wife could not exercise, as she would have to dress immodestly. He works out every day and is in great shape. However, her lack of physical activity is affecting her well being and their marriage. This might be a completely different thesis from what you presented in your post but to me it feels the same. x
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Cheers Sabiscuit, and I have heard of evangelical churches cancelling exercise classes because the women wore yoga pants. THE HORROR! Excluding some of the eastern traditions, all religions, and especially the Abrahamic religions, blame something for the ills of this world, and women tend to take the brunt of that blame. It’s patently ridiculous, and baffling how these belief systems have survived into the 21st Century.
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These same people microwave their pizza, drive cars and depend on Twitter to spread their retrogressive views. They’re silly and I don’t listen to them. I love your blog, though. You’re incredibly skilled at handling screaming dissent. It’s the worded version of an eye roll. x
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Nothing like a good ‘ole islamic education to open the mind. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/quebec-libraries-leery-of-islamic-groups-books-182056778.html;_ylt=AlvBPueFH6mngRtgtqKjfrASscB_;_ylu=X3oDMTE1OG9lN3ZsBG1pdAMEcG9zAzI2BHNlYwNsbl9ZYWhvb09yaWdpbmFsc19nYWw-;_ylg=X3oDMTBhdnVpNmo3BGxhbmcDZW4tQ0E-;_ylv=3
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How lovely.
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Glad you brought this important topic up, johnzande!
Read more about religious terrorism here:
1) http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/15/yes-there-are-christian-terrorists.html ;
2) http://www.salon.com/2013/08/03/the_10_worst_examples_of_christian_or_far_right_terrorism_partner/ ; and here:
3) http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/9211#more-9211 .
Those three links focus terrorism based on Christian faith. ISIS/ISIL/Daesh can get inspired also by studying poisonous Christian fundamentalism.
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Excellent articles.
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About time you posted some more stuff, you shirking lout!
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It is, isn’t it? Been busy herding busy-things, and slapping together the 2nd TOOAIN book. Once that’s buttoned up I’ll flood you with nourishing goodness.
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Flood us, dammit, and stop making excuses. Even one-liners. Maintain a presence.
How else can the nutters excoriate you if you are bashful?
Go get’em, Tiger~!
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